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Putting My Money where my mouth is. My View of Iraq from the inside.

Rob Ballew before a mission

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As many know I am currently serving in Iraq as a soldier in the U.S. Army. I had a choice last year to serve my second tour in Iraq or to get out while I could. And as many might have guessed my mind was made up before I was ever even asked. I chose this path I am on and although there are more days than I would ever admit to that I kick myself for doing this I would never ever change my decision. The reasons for me coming back are many, first and foremost I believed I could do more good to both the U.S. as well as the good people of Iraq by coming over for the second time. Another reason is because I was sick of getting the news from biased media sources on both sides and wanted to see if any of it was true. Another reason is because I have many friends who where set to deploy and what kind of person would I be to not go with them. And last but not least I have always supported our troops, and what better way to support our troops is there than to fight side by side with them. In other words "I put my money where my mouth is".

There have been numerous let downs in this deployment. The mobilization process is hell, by far worse than anything I have experienced in Iraq thus far. The fact we have no interaction with the Iraqis, a fact I have complained about on a few occasions. And the mission although very vital, lacks some of the excitement you might expect. This leads to me not having much to write about and if I do the articles lack the knowledge a lot of newsvine wants to hear.

But as you might guess I do have a lot to say about Iraq and the things I do see. Things have changed a lot in the few months we have been here. Attacks are down a lot and although we still get hit with rockets and mortars on occasion the attacks are down from when we first got here. There has also been a decrease in attacks both IED and small arms on convoys, this can be accredited to both the Coalition Forces as well as the Iraqi Forces who maintain the roads relatively well. And there has also been less attacks on civilians by insurgents which is a very good thing. All in all, although it coming along rather slow it is still coming along and even slow progress is better than no progress.

The other thing I see is the people are out more. There are more small businesses opening up by the day. It almost seems like there is less fear throughout the streets. The infrastructure although not up to standards is also getting better daily. I think this because if the work both Iraqis and Coalition forces have done in taking the streets back from the insurgents. We hear very little of this on the mainstream media, it seems only the bad news makes the headlines. It makes people not want to believe there is any good going on over here. Or when there is good news it just isn't good enough. But the way I see it even a bunch of small steps can turn into a great distance in time. And all these people need here is time and a some help and we have the resources to give them both. I am not a politician and in truth hate this war as much as anyone here. But I also feel our presence here is needed. Every day here is another day away from my life, my family, friends, and a lot of things I took for granted in the past. But also every day here I feel is also worth while for the good I am involved in here.

Last but not least I will do my best to keep you updated on things as I see them progress. I can't promise anything ground breaking or worthy of many other writers here. But what I can promise you is the truth and what I observe on my missions and daily life here in Iraq. And lastly, I want to apologize for my lack of insight on the Iraqi side of the story, and if ever I get the chance I will do my best to get that side out . Thanks to all that have read this I look forward to your input.

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{"commentId":1246643,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

I don't what more I can say than the above posters have said other than thank you for your service and -- keep your head down and your rearend in one piece! Buddy of mine served two tours with a combat engineering outfit in Anbar whose job it was to find and eliminate IEDs. In his two tours they bagged about 600 of the nasties. Fortunately, he was driving a Buff as they ran over more than a few too. Last one was two arty rounds wired together. Blew the vehicle some feet off the ground knocking off the rear axle but no one was hurt beyond bruises and such.

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Reply#26 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 10:44 AM EST
{"commentId":1246846,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thank you Bill, as someone who spends a lot of time on the road, I appreciate the ob the route clearance team does for us. They truly have one of the most dangerous jobs in the military. Thank you for you comment

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#26.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 11:58 AM EST
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{"commentId":1246646,"authorDomain":"lycan"}

Rob

Even though I'm on the other side, I mean not literally in Iraq, but my position is that there are Iraqis who see you as invading forces, and even though some will choose to fight and some will lay low to see where the chips my fall. I do hope that you don't have to kill people and that people don't kill you.

I will not get into the question of why you are there because you already are and this is pretty much a done deal, and this is a feel good post and I don't like to poison it with big issues. You say you are there to serve your country and I believe you believe your government when it says that. All I can say on that is I respect the fact that you are there in what you think is serving your country, even though I disagree with that point of view.

My question is this:

As a soldier, how do you hope to interact with people, whome you don't know and some of them look at you as an occupying force. For people that don't know you from the vine or know that you have family back home waiting for you, the distinction can be quite hard.

How do you present the image of human being, in other words, how do you get people past the uniform, the guns, and all the politics involved? I know you are there as a soldier that believes he is serving his country. But to the other side, that is not the same point of view, at least not for every Iraqi. I hope you have a plan for that.

Other than that, like I said, I do hope that you don't get shot at and that you don't shoot nobody. But it's a war situation, so lets hope it ends okay for everybody.

You may know me from the post about the teacher in Sudan, I be the muslim fundamentalist on the vine.

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Reply#27 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 10:46 AM EST
{"commentId":1246780,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Yes, I remember you and thanks for your comment. Let me first start off by saying to me this has never been Us vs Them or whatever you brought up. I feel that people here deserve a chance at living life free of a lot of the things the past regime and the insurgents would want to bring. So many want to look at it like it is the west vs Islam, when I just see it as us trying to build a better tomorrow. I won't get into the politics or religious aspect because in the whole scheme of thing both are bull@!$%#. We are all human beings whether we are Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Jewish or whatever we believe in. whty do so many use these things as ways to divide and cause others pain. When we get all wrapped up in all the religion and political BS that is where things get @!$%#ed up. I am here, and I feel I can do a good job for all involved in this situation whether Iraqi or U.S. I am not here as an "occupier" I am here as a human trying to do what is right for other humans. So please let's keep the political/religion out of this the best we can.

Thanks again for your comment and as always your view is greatly appreciated.

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#27.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 11:36 AM EST
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{"commentId":1246904,"authorDomain":"JStranahan"}

Rob-

Thanks you for your article. There is a real thirst for real information from soldiers on the ground. Don't worry about not having big headline news. What interests me is what the day-to-day is like for you all. Often the best way to tell a big story is to tell all the little ones.

While I disagree with this whole affair, I have always honored those who risk their lives for what they believe in. I have wondered what belief it is that would muster such bravery in me.

Keep telling the little stories.

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Reply#29 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 12:16 PM EST
{"commentId":1247774,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

I wouldn't call it brave. I think it is more just feeling like I am doing what is right. I made the decision to come because I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if a friend died why I stayed home. Yes I might not be able to save them but as long as I am side by side with them I will know I have done my best. Thanks Jimster for your comment and kind words

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#29.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 4:41 PM EST
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{"commentId":1247569,"authorDomain":"daweb"}

Rob, the more we hear from you the more often we know for sure you are OK. Keep the stories coming!

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Reply#30 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 3:38 PM EST
{"commentId":1247782,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thanks DAWeb, will do whenever the feeling arises I'll send you a story.

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#30.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 4:42 PM EST
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{"commentId":1248432,"authorDomain":"Navigator"}
We hear very little of this on the mainstream media, it seems only the bad news makes the headlines.

Thanks for this note Rob, appreciate your effort to let us know information from the frontlines,just keep on writing from time to time so we know all is well with you.....take care....

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Reply#31 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 8:39 PM EST
{"commentId":1249272,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thank you for your comment Navigator, I will do my best to write as often as I can, I can't always promise Iraq stories but will write and seed as often as time permits.

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#31.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:44 AM EST
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{"commentId":1248722,"authorDomain":"primetimepolitics"}

Great stuff Rob, thank you for your service! You're going on my watchlist immediately. I'm looking forward to reading more. Stay safe.

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Reply#32 - Thu Dec 6, 2007 10:56 PM EST
{"commentId":1249276,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thank you PrimetimePolitics, I also try and seed things we read here via Stars and Stripes so hopefully you can get a little different view than the mainstream media gives you.

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#32.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:47 AM EST
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{"commentId":1248739,"authorDomain":"justregularrobert"}
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{"commentId":1248895,"authorDomain":"lisaed"}
I can't promise anything ground breaking or worthy of many other writers here. But what I can promise you is the truth and what I observe on my missions and daily life here in Iraq. And lastly, I want to apologize for my lack of insight on the Iraqi side of the story, and if ever I get the chance I will do my best to get that side out .

Rob - looking good, man! Thanks always for sharing with us your first hand perspective as a soldier in Iraq and PLEASE you have absolutely nothing to apologize for.....I am humbled to be in your presence here in newsvine. One of my favorite conservative radio hosts - Mark Levin - the other night likened our ability to glean what is really going on in Iraq, vis a vis Iran, and in the world in general to living behind the Iron Curtain----the surge is working -slow but sure -your stories seem to confirm this....too bad there is not enough of this kind of coverage that you share with us on newsvine in the mainstream media. Thanks again. LISA

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Reply#34 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 12:24 AM EST
{"commentId":1249283,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thank you so much lisaed, as always it is wonderful to hear from you. I appreciate your view and will do my best to keep these article coming. Some days it is hard to write because of the lack of anything I find to be interesting. But then again sometimes what is mundane to me might be something others might want to read. Thanks again

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#34.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:55 AM EST
{"commentId":1250333,"authorDomain":"lisaed"}
Some days it is hard to write because of the lack of anything I find to be interesting.

Rob - ain't that the truth - I write only when I'm truly inspired.....and I'm lucky if that inspiration strikes me every coupla weeks. Please keep your reports coming - you are out there on the front lines of the most important struggle of our generation and no matter how "mundane" you may feel about one contribution or another - there is just no way for you an American soldier to ever be mundane - not ever - just not possible.

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#34.2 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:39 PM EST
{"commentId":1250374,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
Some days it is hard to write because of the lack of anything I find to be interesting.

Don't ever think that what you might feel is not interesting will be boring for your readers. They will be glad of anything coming from you because communication serves other valuable functions than merely giving information. Never just view your writing on its face value. With you being in the frontline, it is worth far more than you could ever imagine.

Thank you for all your contributions, Rob.

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#34.3 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:51 PM EST
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{"commentId":1248994,"authorDomain":"rtpricetag"}

I am a 72 year old male, not what would be called new to world events. at the same time having no doubt about the good works of our children many of us parents have or have had in Iraq or nearby service centers.

Still it is not the good intentions of our children serving in Iraq that concerns me, it is more issues of importance such as supplimental military called contract, CIA para-military, and situations like Camp Freedom in Taszar, Hungry where beginning around year 1999 the US-gov began training of 'Free Iraqi Forces'.

Add to this an old friend of Rudy Guilliani called Bernard Kerik contracted by Homeland Security to train 'Iraq Police' (getting the nicknake Baghdad Terminator) most of the first group old Saddam people, and I begin wondering instead where the well trained and armed para-military "Pop-Ups" are coming from, allowed apparently free reign by the Pentagon generals, and easily suspect as Sectarian insurgency problem. Unless religious sectarian-revenge coupled with Iran/Al-Quada war is like a spigot that happens to stop miraculously when needed (surge).

So although I do appreciate very much your keeping us back home informed, at the same time my being familiar with our present gov, I worry about you children being used. You are correct that media news today is completely unreliable, doing my own research, I call it quite often outright lies.

So be careful over there, we sure could use you back home checking into Corp's that deliberately hire illegal aliens, one Congressman reporting a significant drop in US Fed investigation and Fed-Court fines that previously controlled this problem, unfortunately now that little is budgeted for this purpose, has illegal alien situation now out of control. Think of what 150,000 US servicemen looking thru Corp records could do to fight the legitimate war (on illegal aliens) here in America, the fines alone apparently would be enough to pay for this investigation, oil turned out to be a bust.

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Reply#35 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:24 AM EST
{"commentId":1249285,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Thank you for your comment DeWayne I do my best to not get too wrapped around the politics of his and to just do my job here to the best of my ability. I understand where you and others are coming from and appreciate all the insight I get from comment like this one. Thank you again.

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#35.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:57 AM EST
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{"commentId":1249028,"authorDomain":"rtpricetag"}

I have read one of your responses saying your motive for going back is to help the people, having misgivings about the previous Saddam regime. I won't go into detail of how we have been involved with Saddam since he was twenty years old, but the twist of this is a serious comparison of our present occupancy of Iraq. My guess is that very little communitive language and similar skills have been developed for this extensive task you've set yourself.

I have read reports of the insecurity of the Iraqi at this time, believing that after 6-years and over $1-trillion (mostly off book) expense of rebuilding, I am aware of the lack in almost everything needed that except corruption, and find their insecurity under these conditions well founded. I look very suspiciously at pressure being put upon the Iraqi-gov to pass a law that will effectively privatize Iraqi (oil) industry, from reports this is being fought strongly against passing.

Here is the one problem however I do not see being considered, the Iraq-gov wants occupancy-forces out, as do the Iraqi citizens, as do many peoples in surrounding nations/states, as do many of the citizens we call allies, and lastly as do the majority of American citizens.

After the Pentagon purge of qualified generals and leaders by the Cheney group, and qualified advise of those generals and leaders being rejected by the Cheney group, an attitude of the whole world but myself are out of step parallels to closely the PsyOPs of the Cheney-Cabal. This is what worries me about some young men being used as front for the Iraq occupancy. It is obvious enough that most believe the Iraq problem would be best resolved by the Iraqi and trusted supporters, not occupying forces.

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Reply#36 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:55 AM EST
{"commentId":1249201,"authorDomain":"bobneve1"}

Thanks for this atricle. My son is there. Things like this make me feel better but I am still totaly freaked out that my son is in a war zone. I don't think I sleep anymore and have been holding my breath, He hasen't even been there a month yet. I may not get any sleep or breathe unitl his "boots are on the ground".

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Reply#37 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:40 AM EST
{"commentId":1249288,"authorDomain":"ballew74"}

Wizeguy, thank you for your comment and for the fact of raising a son who decided to take a similar path as I. I hope all is well with him and am sure his training and devotion will keep him going. I know it seems very scary and I can't imagine the fear a family member must feel when in this situation. The most important thing you can do for your son now is to keep strong for him and to send your love as often as possible. There is nothing more comforting than knowing someone back home is thinking about you. Thank your son for me for his service and thank you again for your comment.

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#37.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 7:03 AM EST
{"commentId":1249930,"authorDomain":"justregularrobert"}
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{"commentId":1249310,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

CONGRATULATIONS!! Rob on a much deserved RAV. That's so exciting to hear! I hope it shows how much you are valued on Newsvine. Do keep the news and the spirits up. We're all rooting for you.

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Reply#38 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 7:28 AM EST
{"commentId":1250316,"authorDomain":"darkknightjrk"}

Just found this, very good article. I've been wary of the news here about Iraq, both good and bad, so it's good to hear from someone who's actually there. I'll definately be checking out more of your stuff.

Thank you for your service, you're certainly a braver soul than I.

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Reply#39 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:33 PM EST
{"commentId":1250419,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

Throughout time there have always been men who love war and battle just for the sake of it, warriors. This has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the wars they fight in. I don't think Rob Ballew is one of these men, he seems to be one of the rare solders who stays because the good he can do there. Although this is commendable, this still has nothing to do with the legitimacy of this war.

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Reply#40 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:03 PM EST
{"commentId":1251306,"authorDomain":"nikitab"}

Please point out to me these blood-thirsty soldiers you speak of. Because all men and women I know (and I know a few) are very decent peace-loving people who are there to create peace and help Iraqis get control over their lives and future.

We are not at war now - we are now at a point when there is an attempt to establish a stable and prosperous peace.

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#40.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 7:36 PM EST
{"commentId":1251578,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Those bloodthirsty "soldiers" are known to inhabit a certain spectrum of cyberspace where they're sometimes known as Kossacks until they "moveon".

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#40.2 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 10:30 PM EST
{"commentId":1251583,"authorDomain":"justregularrobert"}
rob from oakland, ca.Deleted
{"commentId":1251592,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

rob, I couldn't but notice that you've had the distinct displeasure of encountering winsomecowboy. Thanks buddy for giving him a new leg to hump as mine was getting worn out. Nothing like some smartassed Kiwi ex-pat lightweight to tell an American how he should think about American patriotism.

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#40.4 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 10:40 PM EST
{"commentId":1251689,"authorDomain":"justregularrobert"}
rob from oakland, ca.Deleted
{"commentId":1251716,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Rob, for the latest in counterinsurgent warfare thinking, I stronly recommend Small Wars Journal. There are a host of good national security websites. Global Security is probably the best free one. Stratfor and Jane's Defence are good if you're willing to pay. I don't really know what to recommend as regards the intel community. Most of my surmises are gleaned from reading and what I know of the process at Langley from my experience there in going through the process to become an analyst in the European section twenty years ago. That said, Edward Jay Epstein is always worth a looksee. The first thing they used to drum into you at Langley, at least years ago, is that "we don't make policy here." That seems to have been lost over the past four years as the CIA has declared war on the Bush administration largely to cover their own manifest failures with regard to 9/11 and later Iraq.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on winsome. I found him more than a bit of a troll with nothing much substantive to offer.

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#40.6 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 11:46 PM EST
{"commentId":1251735,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}

Bill, your an acquired taste. Someone whom I first despised, then learned to ignore, then learned to laugh at/with, and then learned to appreciate. I still consider you to be a boorish jerk... but I put you on my friends list... go figure... Try looking at winsome in the same light. I think you'll be surprised.

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#40.7 - Fri Dec 7, 2007 11:59 PM EST
{"commentId":1251756,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}

@Jim Dent
You must have either worked in PR or hostage negotiations at one time ! That was one of the better worded comments I have seen on here. I would bet you could even do one for Eric :-)

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#40.8 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:08 AM EST
{"commentId":1251764,"authorDomain":"justregularrobert"}
rob from oakland, ca.Deleted
{"commentId":1251772,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}
...I would bet you could even do one for Eric :-)

I appreciate the sentiment, but I'll pass on that bet... :)

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#40.10 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:19 AM EST
{"commentId":1251781,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I appreciate the sentiment, but I'll pass on that bet... :)

Wise choice....Almost as bad as those Mac vs PC discussions....

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#40.11 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:24 AM EST
{"commentId":1252611,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Rob, I'm not a former spook. I just went through the "process" out there for about eight months. My position was eliminated in a budget shakeup in the Euro section. Just as well as I don't think looking back I probably would have liked working there. There are lots of good men and women who work at CIA. The problem is that the agency is a relic of the Cold War -- a vast bureacracy where oft-times the right hand doesn't know what the left's doing. Like an aircraft carrier, it's inertia makes it difficult to change course but the course definitely needs to be changed. Specifically, it relies far too much on SIGINT intercepts and has never successfully penetrated with HUMINT any of the countries or organizations which constitute today's biggest threats. Prior to September 11th, the agency had tracked several members of the crew to a meeting in Malaysia but never informed the FBI, INS or Customs about it so they weren't flagged for denial of entrance to the country. Had they been the awful day might never have occurred.

Now as for my findings vis-a-vis certain posters, I respond to presentation of evidence and am less than impressed, to say the least, with those who don't offer anything in the way of it when casting aspersions either on our elected officials or other posters. If that's "boorishness", Jim, so be it.

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#40.12 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:58 AM EST
{"commentId":1252660,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}
If that's "boorishness", Jim, so be it.

Guess I shoulda' thrown a smiley face in there... Bill, if I really considered you boorish, I'd just ignore you. That I usually respond to your comments sez otherwise...

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#40.13 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:21 PM EST
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